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Re: Vacation - Can someone roll the win32 setup?

From: Florian Schulze <florian.proff.schulze_at_gmx.net>
Date: 2003-07-11 11:43:50 CEST

I think the same, the installer is just a convenient way to get svn
installed AND uninstalled.

Florian

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:15:29 -0500, Leeuw van der, Tim
<tim.leeuwvander@nl.unisys.com> wrote:

> I don't have any use for the debug info at the moment, and about Python
> bindings: It might actually be a better idea to have a seperate installer
> for the Python bindings (as they probably need to be installed in
> Python-specific locations etc, and perhaps even be created using the
> Python
> dist-utils)
>
> So I guess that actually, I have no need for any changes to the
> installer.
>
> --Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jostein Christoffer Andersen [mailto:jostein@josander.net]
> Sent: vrijdag 11 juli 2003 10:49
> To: Leeuw van der, Tim
> Cc: dev@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: Re: Vacation - Can someone roll the win32 setup?
>
>
> On Friday 11 July 2003 09.31, Leeuw van der, Tim wrote:
>> What other software is required, in general? Open-source, or
>> commercial? I understand that the compiled binaries are already done,
>> so that the person rolling the installer doesn't need MSVC.
>
> You need this packages which is mentioned in the file packages/win32-
> innosetup/Readme.txt: Inno Setup, ISTool, 7-zip, Perl, Packages for
> converting XML documentation and MS HTML Help Workshop.
>
> The file have all the links you need in order to download the packages.
> All of them are free/freeware and most of them are Open Source (exception
> is HTML Help Workshop). It's important that all the Inno Setup related
> packages are in the 3.x series (the 4.x's which is beta are not stable
> enough).
>
>> What about Python-bindings? Will they be included in the
>> installer-builds, or is that not desirable in your opinion?
>
> No (not this time at least), here is some reasons/thoughts/workarounds:
> * I'm using 7-zip for compression of the setup but the Python-bindings
> are still making the setup approx. 1.6 MB bigger.
> * Do an "ordinary" user need the bindings? Which users are the
> installer's target?
> * The bindings can be downloaded from the subversion site.
>
> On the other hand: -Maybe I should reconsider all of it because (?):
> * The installers audience are developers and sysadmins (?).
> * The "real end users" will use Tortoisesvn and other GUI solutions.
> * Many developer related files are already included in the setup,
> such as the Berkeley header files.
>
> Maybe The Windows Installer should be targeted for developers and
> sysadmins and maybe I should not fear a bigger size of the installer so
> much. Then I should include the debug info as well as the Python bindings
> as well.
>
> Tortoisesvn are already doing a fantastic job for end users and RapidSVN
> are getting better and better. And the line of misc. end user related
> Subversion projects are getting longer and longer :-).
>
> This is what I'm working with now (I will not finish it before after my
> vacation):
> * Misc. downloads of missing system file during/after installation.
> * Detection/stop/start of apache service during installation.
>
> I think that the "typical" installer setup should focus on just getting
> the Subversion Revision Control installed. But maybe it should include
> Python bindings, debug symbols and other stuff that fits to a package.
>
> Any thoughs anyone?
>
> Jostein

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