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RE: Cygwin Install, Misc. Documentation and Install Comments

From: Leeuw van der, Tim <tim.leeuwvander_at_nl.unisys.com>
Date: 2003-01-07 23:12:19 CET

Hi,

I've been using subversion client (0.15) in combination with cygwin with no
problems at all. Windows accepts forward slashed in filenames just as well
as backslashes (it's cmd.exe which gets confused about it), so as long as
you use relative path-names and avoid cygwin symlinks you have no problems.

I used ra_dav for repos. access, with the server running on the same win2k
apache 2.0.43.
Apache might be more stable on a linux platform; Apache seemed to crash at
one point and since that my database is corrupted (still need to get to the
bottom of that when time permits and that project becomes important again)

Anyways, cygwin shouldn't pose you problems in combination with svn client!
:-)

With regards,

--Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew [mailto:asha@onezero.org]
Sent: maandag 6 januari 2003 21:40
To: dev@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: Cygwin Install, Misc. Documentation and Install Comments

Hello..

Subversion looks nice. I used CVS for 4 years and would like to use
Subversion in a new project that I am starting now. I'm itching to
go -- getting a revision control system in place is the project's top
priority.

The project is being developed mostly in the Cygwin environment. So,
I want to use a version of Subversion that knows about Cygwin/Unix-like
path names. It would be awful to have to continually translate paths
between Unix-style slashes and Windows-style backslashes. Using CVS
would probably be better than that.

It is possible to invoke a for-Windows Subversion binary from Cygwin,
but that binary won't know about Cygwin path names. It seems that in
order to get Subversion to know about Cygwin-style path names, it's
necessary to use a version of Subversion that was built under Cygwin,
or at least specifically to handle CYgwin-style paths in some way.

So, a few weeks ago I tried building and installing Subversion under
Cygwin, using a recent version from the Subversion source repository
at tigris. (I do not recall which version.) I ran into one or more
problems running ./configure. I spent several hours debugging the
script and looking for information at Google, but eventually gave up.
Unfortunately I have since deleted the directory that contained the
build and install attmept, so I can't provide much more information.
I was wondering if anyone had installed Subversion on Cygwin recently.
At the time I tried to get Subversion to build under Cygwin, it looked like
the last semi-official install attempt was in February (maybe February
28 -- I am writing from memory). If nobody has tried this recently,
could a Subversion build/install guru take a look? February was a
long time ago -- it would be nice for those of us that just want to use
Subversion to have it work on Cygwin right out of the box.

In return for help with this vague "it won't go on Cygwin" report,
I am contributing some notes that I made a few weeks ago about ways
that the Subversion documentation and install process might be improved.
Even though the notes are somewhat raw, I think they're comprehensible;
if something is unclear, let me know and I'll try to clarify.

I've subscribed to dev@subversion.tigris.org to be able to see responses.
I'll probably unsubscribe after a few days, as my interest is in getting
Subversion installed on Cygwin, and not in the high traffic on the list.
Thanks in advance for any help.

- Andrew

Here are the notes about the Subversion book.

add date to the title page

svn resolve
  how about having it warn you if there are new conflict markers
  in the file:
  $ svn resolve sandwich
  Not resolved; sandwich contains new conflict markers
  You can use "svn resolve -f" to force resolution.

svn ignore
  bias towards certain files; default should be to ignore nothing

"Note that<svn resolve> --> "Note that <svn resolve>"
"svn ci --file logmsg" --> "$ svn commit --file logmsg"

page 27: COMMITTED overwrites its table entry
("The last revision in which ...")
I think this happens in an earlier table also; I don't remember where.

How about using lower case letters for head, base, committed, and prev?
I didn't see capital letters anywhere else in svn so far.

page 28 (description of svn import) -- refers to "svnadmin create",
which has not yet been described in the document at this point.

Explain the name of "svn cat" -- it will make no sense to non-UNIX users.

What do the "-500" items mean in the examples with dates and times?

In "svn list" output, instead of showing a _ for every item
that doesn't have a property, how about just showing nothing
there (a space)?
Also, "The columns tell you if a file has ..." -->
"The columns tell you if a file or directory has ..."

It would be nice for the guided tour to give a quick introduction to
creating repositories.

What I've read so far of the documentation is quite good.

I desire quick start documentation -- just a few pages (5 at most) about
how to create a repository, check out a file, and check in a file, with
pointers at the end of the quick start documentation to the documentation
for the next-most-common tasks.

Add an index to the document.

About what are currently called "properties" in Subversion parlance:
I don't know if "property" is a standard term beyond its meaning in
C#, but from my point of view it's a bit unpleasant to have "property"
mean one thing in C# and another in Subversion. I wonder if the
Subversion world would be served best by calling this thing "attribute"
rather than "property" as it's currently called.

Regularly building pre-built binaries for Cygwin and putting them and the
necessary brief install documentation up at tigris might significantly
expand the Subversion user base. For example I bet making a Cygwin
binary and install documentation update every six months would be fine in
most cases. Most people are going to be interested in using Subversion,
I think, not in the intricacies of building and installing it. I might
be wrong about how other people feel but at there is a data point here
from one potential Subversion user that would like to use it rather than
debug builds and installs.

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