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Re: svn 1.0 in 2006 or now?

From: solo turn <soloturn99_at_yahoo.com>
Date: 2002-12-30 11:04:01 CET

--- Karl Fogel <kfogel@newton.ch.collab.net> wrote:
> solo turn <soloturn99@yahoo.com> writes:
> > what are your plans for the 1.0?
> >
> > my impression after checking the task list for the milestones
> before
> > 1.0 two months ago and now is that continuing like this will end
> in
> > v1.0 in year 2006 or eternity ... as the list is growing, not
> > shrinking.
>
> Periodically we do go over the whole bug list and push what we can
> past 1.0.
may i suggest to postpone the following issues past 1.0:

 1042,1044,1019,1034,1035,1036,1037,1046,1031,630,1015,1025,
 510,639,1004,1008,913,1006,724,
 495,992,837,699,919,990,933,787,869,971,977,751,774,957,951,
 952,950,885,882,620,571,443,746,558,738,
 838,749,773,852,959,850,650,667,997,854,986,752,991,777,
 946,987,

and go beta if the remaining "critical" ones are done
(730,668,1003,891,940)?

>
> > i know too many people now NOT using svn, cause it is not
> "finished".
> > but this is just not true. it is already more useable than cvs,
> and
> > that is sufficient for most projects and use cases.
>
> Feature-wise, maybe, but not in terms of stability.
there is two kinds of stability:
- data is safe and accessible:
  i consider it as stable, as i never heard of
  somebody who lost a repository recently.
  and berkely db is definitely known as very
  reliable. so the data store is safe.
- the interfaces are stable
  you can just make it stable
  but svn 2.0 does NOT need to have
  the same interfaces, otherwise
  it will end up as one of the unusable
  unix-dinosaurs where one wrong decision
  gets dragged along for years.
  don't have the illusion of doing
  it perfect for 1.0.

> Remember that Linux had many users before 1.0, as people gradually
> realized that it was getting stable and that Linus was just being
> conservative.
granted.
but i still think svn has less crashes than linux. and the majorities
of issues have nothing to do with crashes.

> interfaces, we've missed the point. And it's not as if we're
> suffering from a shortage of users or testers right now. Let's
> worry
> about bugs and features, not labels :-).
this is the only point we disagree.
labes are important. and features is not any more important for 1.0.

> > or is somebody from the collab-guys, or greg stein without a job
> > after 1.0 is released?
>
> No, don't worry, 1.0 has no effect on our jobs. (By the way, Greg
> Stein *is* one of the Collab guys.)
that's great!

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