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Re: collab.net support

From: Robert Anderson <RWA_at_sbcglobal.net>
Date: 2002-12-16 23:22:53 CET

I guess my reply to this never got sent somehow, so here's a
hasty version of it:

>On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 02:02:34PM -0600, Ben Collins-Sussman wrote:
>> "Robert Anderson" <RWA@sbcglobal.net> writes:
>> > I never said it was. What I said is that Collabnet intends to
>> > profit from subversion, and I am not interested in helping
>> > Collabnet do that (given other options that achieve my goals),
>> > because that hurts me.
>> If somebody makes Subversion better, the whole public
benefits. That
>> includes individuals, moms, dogs, kids, nonprofits and even
>> for-profit corporations too. Everyone gains.

Well that is just plainly false as an absolute. If you and I
operate in the same economic sphere, when you gain, I lose. That
is not pretty, but it is the truth.

>> By your argument, I guess you can never work on any open source
>> project, because it's always possible that some entity (which you
>> dislike) may profit from your work later on.

No, I don't believe that to be a reasonable conclusion from my
argument at all. All I'm saying is that open source involves
risks as well as benefits. Are you going to attempt to argue
that it does not? That would be interesting. (and as an aside,
it has nothing to do with liking or disliking any entities - I
don't dislike anything I've seen of Collabnet.)

Wouldn't you agree that before collaborating with someone, a
person should understand what each party stands to gain from the
collaboration? That's the impetus for my original question of
"how does Collabnet intend to profit from subversion?" I think
it's a fair question, and I think you gave me a fair answer.

>Yeah. Companies profit from Apache, Sendmail, Bind, Linux, BSD,
>I guess there's nothing left for us all to do.

Huh? I have no idea what that relates to.

Final observation: One cannot apriori assume that "by
collaboring we all win." Maybe we do, maybe we don't, and it
probably makes sense to have an informed opinion before entering
into any collaboration. Thanks for giving me that info. Carry on!


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