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Re: gcc source management requirements

From: Robert North <aqh4uyrs3e02_at_sneakemail.com>
Date: 2002-12-10 13:04:36 CET

Peter Davis peter-at-pdavis.cx |Subversion list| wrote:

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>Okay, I think I understand. Instead of simply having the commit fail and then
>running "svn update" (or "svn merge") and resolving the conflicts in your
>working copy, you want it to create a special branch so that the commit still
>succeeds, but isn't actually merged into the HEAD tree. That's an
>interesting concept.
>Since it is very easy and efficient to create your own branch in Subversion,
>you should be able to achieve the same goals, even if Subversion won't
>automatically create the branches for you. Personally, I'd even prefer that
>I have to make the branches myself, just because I never believe in overly
>"smart" tools. I can see how microbranches would be nice coming from CVS
>where it is difficult and time- and resource consuming to create branches
2 Points here,

1. The Commit/Update process.
I think a commit should still fail if there's outstanding updates.
You then have a choice
     a. commit to a branch and continue working, (probably imediately
doing an update on the trunk)
     b. update from trunk, then comit.

2. Branching
At present, I don't think you can make a branch and commit to it, if
your sandbox is on
the trunk and the sandbox contains modifications.
I haven't tested that though.

>One question: what happens when you've finished merging the various changes in
>your microbranch, but someone else has made changes to the HEAD tree and the
>microbranch itself becomes out of date? When you commit it, do you get a
My assumption would be that best practice says: work on the trunk, if
So, normally you'd only have the contents of a single commit on your
branch, followed by an update fron the trunk,
some conflict resoloution, and a commit to the trunk.

I think what you're moving towards is something like a vendor-trunk
relationship here (something I don't fully understand)

>I'd hope this wouldn't be an absolute requirement for adoption by GCC or any
>other project. It would be a nifty feature, but it just seems like mostly
>sugar to me, especially given that one of the other requirements is that
>manual branches are quick and easy (and they are with Subversion).
So long as subversion provides the infrastucture, users can script to
create their desired

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