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Re: collaborating

From: Tom Lord <lord_at_regexps.com>
Date: 2002-10-10 23:04:25 CEST

> But Subversion can't afford a drastic redesign.

First, saying "drastic" makes a presumption that may very well turn
out to be false. I don't see how either of us can tell how far this
would take you off your current path unless we actually think it
through. If you can not, now and again, stop to rethink -- then there
is something organizationally broken on your end.

Second, "afford" is an economic question. I believe that this effort
can be framed so as to be self-funding, with customers. I believe it
is important to do it that way.

Third, on the question of what is "affordable" -- is that your call?
or are you speaking for collabnet?

Fourth, if this were a game show, I'd wager that I could kill
(obliterate, cream, reduce to a smear on the sidewalk of history)
BitKeeper for $1.5-3M, 1-2 years, with several nice side-effect,
spin-off projects to boot. What's your burn rate over there?

> A complete rescoping at this point would be insanity, from a
> project management point of view.

In general, Don't Panic. Planning is cheap and pays off. You have
lots of code and other resources. Even in the most wildly divergent
scenarios, it seems plausible to me that considerable chunks of those
resources are usefully reusable.

Insanity is marching into the Russian countryside in the middle of
winter because That's The Plan and I'm Sticking to It.

> If you still think you can help, given the above, then great!
> But we'll understand if you feel it's impossible.

Right back atchya.

> But if *you* think Subversion could be redesigned to replace
> BitKeeper and still brought to a releaseable state before the
> heat death of the universe,

I'm trying to avoid presumptions about the outcome of a
stop-and-review effort. Generally, good review efforts save money,
align efforts, and get to market quicker.

The scope I've outlined seems to fit collabnet's charter, even if not
its current design orientation.

> The recent BitKeeper license changes doesn't affect any of
> this, btw.

No, it only effects your prospective customers, that's all.

-t

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