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Re: RFC: a human-eye date format everyone can love

From: Karl Fogel <kfogel_at_newton.ch.collab.net>
Date: 2002-06-24 19:26:19 CEST

David Summers <david@summersoft.fay.ar.us> writes:
> That seems like a great compromise. If I can vote, I vote +1 on this.

We'd like everyone's opinion, yes!

(Anyway, consensus is different from a vote -- different processes for
different situations. If we can't get a consensus here, then we'll
have to go to a vote, but I have a feeling that won't be necessary in
this case.)

> On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Karl Fogel wrote:
>
> > Please read "RFC" as "Request For Consensus"... :-)
> >
> > Now that Hadaka has committed the bulk of the new date output code, we
> > should decide on a human-output date format. Currently, svn is
> > printing:
> >
> > "Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:36:04 -0500"
> >
> > ...but we all know this is just a placeholder until we figure out what
> > we really want. On IRC just now, Hadaka came up with a neat solution,
> > which we'd like to propose together:
> >
> > "2002-06-24 10:36:04 -0500 (Mon 24 Jun)"
> >
> > The goal of this format is to start with an ISO-8601 section (and
> > perhaps compliant with some other standards as well), followed by a
> > clearly delimited second section intended for human consumption.
> >
> > Automatic parsers will only read as many chars as they need, since
> > they know the width of the standard-compliant date. Meanwhile,
> > English-reading humans can look at the second section to do faster
> > mental processing. Everybody wins.
> >
> > Furthermore, since the second section is ignored by automatic
> > processors, we can make it locale-sensitive, so non-English-readers
> > can get friendly output too.
> >
> > The main disadvantage here is that this format is slightly longer than
> > the old one. We don't see a big problem, though; it's still short
> > enough that it keeps log output well within an 80-column line. IOHO
> > the extra information is worth it.
> >
> > NOTE: If I made any errors in formatting the first part of the date
> > above, please point them out. We certainly intend to propose
> > standards-compliance in that portion. Hadaka points out that the
> > space before the "-0500" might be illegal; in that case, I'm +1 on
> > keeping the space anyway for readability, also +1 on eliminating it
> > for compliance :-) ).
> >
> > Thoughts?,
> > -Karl
> >
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