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Re: [PATCH] Unify human represented timestamp formats.

From: Karl Fogel <kfogel_at_newton.ch.collab.net>
Date: 2002-06-22 21:44:26 CEST

"Bill Tutt" <rassilon@lyra.org> writes:
> Err, (IIRC) the reason Nuutti's suggesting one and only one format is
> because this realease (1.0) isn't focused on il8n. The format he
> suggested isn't going to make everybody happy, but it's (IIRC) better
> than what we have.

I certainly don't think it's better than what we have -- it's worse.

"svn log" used to print the weekday name; with this change, it
doesn't. That's bad. I depend on that weekday name all the time,
surely I can't be the only one. That output is substantially less
useable without the name.

> Certainly to store the data this way in BDB makes
> eminent sense. Storing weekday information is useless, that can be
> easily calculated. (Esp. if the weekday needs to get converted into a
> non-Gregorian calendar like the Hebrew calendar.)

Sure, there's no need to store the weekday name, completely agree.

> What needs to happen later is that SVN needs to suck in as many OS
> specific data about what the end user's date/time formatting preferences
> are and use those. Sounds like a job for APR if you ask me.

Yes, we should do that. But in the absence of environmental clues, we
should default to the most useable possible format.

   Giving the user the ability to customize doesn't absolve us from
   the responsibility of choosing good defaults for the non-customized


If it's a matter of disagreement over whether the weekday name and/or
month name makes the format more useable, that's fine. But I don't
know (or don't *think* I know) anyone who prefers not to have those
words when eye-parsing a date. They're so dang helpful. If we lose
them, we're simply getting worse, IMHO.

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Received on Sat Jun 22 21:53:42 2002

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