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Re: svn commit: rev 333 - trunk/subversion/libsvn_ra_local trunk/subversion/clients/cmdline

From: Greg Stein <gstein_at_lyra.org>
Date: 2001-10-30 01:01:44 CET

On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 05:10:30PM -0600, Karl Fogel wrote:
> Greg Stein <gstein@lyra.org> writes:
>...
> > Users will be confused by that "103 bytes" in there. Bytes for what? The
> > diff? It will take a bit before they realize "oh! the length of the log
> > message."
> >
> > Users don't need that value. I don't think it is right to put it in there.
> >
> > And if you want to say "but we want a parsable output", then use XML. Or a
> > flag or something. But don't burden *users* with stuff only intended for a
> > program. Not to mention the program can figure it out for itself anyways
> > just by scanning for the "-----" separator.
>
> No, that doesn't work.
>
> You might say, "C'mon, who would ever put the separator in their log
> message itselfq?"
>
> To which I would say "Believe it or not, I have encountered that very
> problem several times from users of cvs2cl.pl. No matter how small a
> chance it is, there will always be *someone* out there who does it."

I've seen it to, so I believe it. But a byte count for *user* output isn't
the right solution.

> So we cannot depend on the separator. The byte count is not so
> confusing, really (I mean, were *you* confused, or are you just
> assuming that other people might get confused?).

Yes. I got confused. Maybe I'm an old fart who's going senile, but I saw "%d
bytes" and went "wtf?". Then I saw the strlen(msg) and went "huh?!". And
then finally it dawned on me the purpose of that field.

I like the idea of indenting each line by one space, keeping the -----
marker, and dropping the byte count.

Or, creating a rich output format.

Cheers,
-g

-- 
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
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