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Re: 'SVN' to '.svn'

From: Douglas S. Keester <dkeester_at_earthlink.net>
Date: 2001-09-05 20:56:04 CEST

On Tuesday 04 September 2001 16:02, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:28:57PM -0400, Greg Hudson wrote:
> >...
> >
> > > The wc library could recognize several alternatives, like RCS, which
> > > looks for version files in "RCS/", ".rcs/" and "./".
> >
> > I have no strong objection to having a short, fixed list of
> > alternatives, although I think it's going overboard.
> This whole thread is going overboard.
> *ALL* of the problems stated in this thread, and their potential solutions,
> have been caused by the (ahem) "useful" functionality of a variably-named
> administrative directory.
> Come on, people. *WHY* WHY WHY?
> Flexibility for flexibility's sake is a bogus goal. It needs to be useful.
> Programs assert particular behavior all the time, we don't have to cater to
> every possible desire.
> Fix the darn directory as '.svn' and be done with it.
> Stop and think about it: *why* must it be changeable? Provide a good
> argument.
> And when you starting coming up with that argument, ask whether CVS lets
> you change its admin dir name, or .cvsignore. Do people complain? I've
> never heard a single bad word about that. And does your argument vacuously
> state that people want that flexibility? Then where is the support for that
> assertion? "But it should be visible" Ok, to what? ls? It is, if you pass
> -a. To programs such as vc-mode? They can see .svn just as easily as SVN.
> So far, I've heard a ton of support of '.svn', an semi-support from GregH
> for it, and one voice for "flexibility" (which sent us down this mess).
> -g


My name is Doug and I am currently just a lurker on the list, but am looking
for ways to help out. I figured now would be a good time to throw in my two

I have to agree with Greg Stein on this one. I have been the administrator of
a _large_ CVS repository, used for Web Content Managment, for the past year.
I can not see how definable administrative dirs is a useful feature. If
anything it will only create unnecessary complexity and confuse users.

In this instance we need to pick one and go with it. Remember K.I.S.S.

My +1 is for .SVN or .svn.

-Doug Keester

Douglas S. Keester
UNIX guy
"If I survive this experience, thought Georges
furiously, I am going to kill that cricket."
  -Daniel Keys Moran
    "The Armageddon Blues"
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