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Re: sigh

From: Eric S. Raymond <esr_at_thyrsus.com>
Date: 2001-04-03 03:56:58 CEST

Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>:
> Once again I have to correct Eric. I was forwarded the first mail he
> sent in which he implied that I called you a bunch of idiots. I did
> no such thing, I didn't say that, I didn't imply that, that was 100%
> Eric fabricating statements I did not, and would not, make. I find
> that sort of statement unacceptable.

What I reported was a direct quote. I left out some explanatory
verbiage in between the two sentences, but that's as close as I came
to "fabricating" anything. You have no excuse for not remembering
this; you were completely sober at the time, as was I.

No, you didn't call the Subversion guys idiots. But I didn't fabricate
anything either, and the accusation that I'm "playing politics" is
pretty damn funny under the circumstances. In fact, you liked your
line about the cheering and shouting in the halls at Bitkeeper that I
heard you repeat it to someone else less than an hour afterwards --
Rik van Riel, I think. Want me to ask him?

If you're not prepared to own up to slanging other peoples' work, you
shouldn't do it in public where I and Ted T'so and half the kernel
team can call you on it. But that behavior was merely stupid;
accusing me of "fabricating" in order to cover your ass is over the
line into dishonorable. I'm quite thoroughly disgusted with you.

And I have a prediction. All your undoubted brilliance as a software
architect is going to get you exactly *nowhere* -- because behavior
like this is a very effective form of self-sabotage. If you had owned
up to what you said, you could have demurred that the word I deleted
was "fuckers" and not "idiots" and anybody who had ever met you would
figure it was just Larry the overaged enfant terrible spouting off in
his usual profane way.

As it is, you've just blown another hole in your own credibility.
Now. You can apologize to me for accusing me of lying, and you can
apologize to the Subversion team for trying to piss down their backs
-- or you can play tough guy and I can dig up some witnesses and make
this *really* humiliating for you. Which is it going to be?

Sigh...and when the hell are you going to *grow up*?

		Eric S. Raymond
The two pillars of `political correctness' are, 
  a) willful ignorance, and
  b) a steadfast refusal to face the truth
	-- George MacDonald Fraser
Received on Sat Oct 21 14:36:27 2006

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