If I can offer an example to back up Mo's point, consider Solaris. This OS
absolutely, positively sucks when it comes to having useful *anything* out
of the box. And it's a mainstream _UNIX_.
And to reinforce Karl Fogel's earlier guess about MacOS, yes, indeed, Perl
and Python both would be much better bets than bash (although there are some
interesting ports of UNIX tools to consider if one has Apple MPW). As in you
don't have bash. And MacOS X doesn't help...there will be a sizeable
community of Mac types that won't have OS X for years. But then there is
always AppleScript (and I'm not being sarcastic).
----- Original Message -----
From: Mo DeJong <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: subversion client test suite
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, John P Cavanaugh wrote:
> > I just have a hard time believing that systems where subversion will
> > be *built* and *tested* dont have perl.
> Why is this so hard to believe? There are lots of
> Unix systems that lack good tools. That is why
> the whole GNU thing got started in the first place.
> > I understand systems where subversion will be installed not
> > having perl, but development systems???
> If it is hard to run the test suite on anything other
> than a development system, then it will tend to get
> run only on development systems. I contend that is
> not the result we should be striving for. The goal
> should be to make running the test suite as
> painless as possible so that lots of folks
> will run it. If you can run:
> make check
> and that automatically takes care of everything,
> that would be a good thing, no?
> > Well why don't we include the source for gcc, make, autoconf,
> > /bin/sh, etc.
> I know you are kidding, but still.
> gcc, make : you can't compile svn without a compiler or make
> /bin/sh : can't run svn's ./configure without it
> autoconf : writes out a /bin/sh script, see above.
> These tools have already dealt with the bootstrap
> issue. It is a real problem, but folks don't
> seem to be too interested so I will stop
> trying to convince everyone.
> Mo DeJong
> Red Hat Inc
Received on Sat Oct 21 14:36:25 2006