Nov 20 17:39:06 <rindolf>	Hi all. http://paste.scsys.co.uk/161534 - svn ci -m hangs. svn ls, svn up, and the web-interface are working fine. I'm on x86-64 Mageia Linux 2 (cauldron). It worked in the past. Can anyone help?
Nov 20 17:39:54 <rindolf>	It's also from localhost to localhost and iptables is all-ACCEPT.
Nov 20 17:46:18 <rindolf>	OK, file:/// is working fine.
Nov 20 17:46:29 <rindolf>	As far as svn checkout and svn commit is concerned.
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Nov 20 18:50:53 <StPiere>	hello, im just starting with svn ... how can i import and set project localy from remote http/ftp host under svn version controll ?
Nov 20 19:03:50 <rindolf>	StPiere: hi.
Nov 20 19:04:29 <rindolf>	StPiere: you can use "svn co http://URL/to/your/trunk" to checkout a working copy.
Nov 20 19:06:05 <rindolf>	StPiere: if I understood you correctly.
Nov 20 19:18:19 <danielsh>	KarlHungus: what  do you want to know about svn.a.o ?
Nov 20 19:18:59 <danielsh>	KarlHungus: http://svn-master.apache.org/dump/
Nov 20 19:19:42 <danielsh>	rindolf: try disabling HTTPv2, does the problem persist?
Nov 20 19:20:02 <danielsh>	SVNAdvertiseV2Protocol
Nov 20 19:20:03 <rindolf>	danielsh: how do I disable it?
Nov 20 19:20:06 <danielsh>	^
Nov 20 19:20:10 <danielsh>	set that to off
Nov 20 19:20:14 <rindolf>	danielsh: OK.
Nov 20 19:23:42 <rindolf>	danielsh: no, it does not fix the problem.
Nov 20 19:24:13 <rindolf>	danielsh: hi! You remember about tomorrow, right?
Nov 20 19:24:25 <danielsh>	rindolf: yes
Nov 20 19:24:38 <rindolf>	danielsh: nice.
Nov 20 19:24:45 <rindolf>	danielsh: I didn't recall you being on #svn .
Nov 20 19:24:51 <rindolf>	Not that I'm here a lot anymore.
Nov 20 19:24:55 <danielsh>	I'm not usually active here rindolf
Nov 20 19:25:03 <rindolf>	danielsh: ah.
Nov 20 19:25:06 <danielsh>	I lurk here and occasionally chime in from the peanut gallery
Nov 20 19:25:15 <rindolf>	danielsh: peanut gallery?
Nov 20 19:25:20 <danielsh>	idiom
Nov 20 19:25:41 <danielsh>	from afar
Nov 20 19:26:22 <rindolf>	danielsh: ah.
Nov 20 19:26:30 <rindolf>	Wasn't familiar with that idiom. :-S
Nov 20 19:26:47 <danielsh>	 I'm slightly abusing it rindolf
Nov 20 19:26:59 <rindolf>	danielsh: ah.
Nov 20 19:27:15 <danielsh>	Normally it's used by inactive devs chiming into a discussion
Nov 20 19:27:26 <danielsh>	should say, now-inactive devs
Nov 20 19:27:30 <danielsh>	Anyway, your paste
Nov 20 19:27:37 <danielsh>	The last thing that happens, create-txn
Nov 20 19:28:08 <danielsh>	Well, the name is self-explanatory, it creates a txn (before sending modifications over the wire)
Nov 20 19:28:15 <danielsh>	for some reason that doesn't work
Nov 20 19:28:27 <danielsh>	permissions on $REPOS/db/ would be the first suspect
Nov 20 19:28:34 <danielsh>	as well as the usual question,
Nov 20 19:28:41 <danielsh>	what did you change since the last time it worked?
Nov 20 19:28:43 <danielsh>	rindolf: EOT
Nov 20 19:29:27 <rindolf>	danielsh: it works with subversion-1.6.x.
Nov 20 19:29:37 <danielsh>	on the server or on the client?
Nov 20 19:29:42 <rindolf>	danielsh: after I downgrade to their packages.
Nov 20 19:29:45 <rindolf>	danielsh: on the server.
Nov 20 19:29:58 <rindolf>	danielsh: the permissions on $REPOS/db allow for file:/// commits.
Nov 20 19:30:06 <rindolf>	danielsh: I'm running everything as the same user.
Nov 20 19:30:11 <danielsh>	rindolf: if commits work with 1.6 server,
Nov 20 19:30:19 <danielsh>	that's sufficient evidence that perms are fine
Nov 20 19:30:49 <danielsh>	Trying to figure out if it's a known issue
Nov 20 19:30:57 <danielsh>	You said it still fails with HTTPv2 disabled.
Nov 20 19:31:01 <rindolf>	danielsh: yes.
Nov 20 19:31:04 <danielsh>	Do you have nested <Location> blocks by chance in httpd.conf ?
Nov 20 19:31:11 <rindolf>	I added SVNAdvertiseV2Protocol off
Nov 20 19:31:19 <danielsh>	(and restarted httpd)
Nov 20 19:31:53 <rindolf>	danielsh: yes, I restarted httpd.
Nov 20 19:32:01 <rindolf>	danielsh: <Location>s are not nested.
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Nov 20 19:32:41 <danielsh>	rindolf: my next suspect is some httpd.conf settings
Nov 20 19:32:54 <rindolf>	danielsh: OK, let me pastebin it.
Nov 20 19:32:58 <danielsh>	kk
Nov 20 19:33:46 <rindolf>	danielsh: http://paste.debian.net/146407/
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Nov 20 19:35:46 <danielsh>	your svn-test-work blocks need to grow the new Redirect directives
Nov 20 19:36:03 <danielsh>	httpd/httpd.conf:RedirectMatch permanent ^/svn-test-work/repositories/REDIRECT-PERM-(.*)$ /svn-test-work/repositories/$1
Nov 20 19:36:05 <danielsh>	httpd/httpd.conf:RedirectMatch           ^/svn-test-work/repositories/REDIRECT-TEMP-(.*)$ /svn-test-work/repositories/$1
Nov 20 19:36:34 <danielsh>	Nothing jumps out at me from the httpd.conf rindolf
Nov 20 19:37:08 <danielsh>	strace time?
Nov 20 19:37:36 <StPiere>	rindolf, thanks
Nov 20 19:37:47 <rindolf>	danielsh: OK.
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Nov 20 19:39:20 <rindolf>	danielsh: how do I properly strace httpd? It forks.
Nov 20 19:39:26 <rindolf>	StPiere: you're welcome.
Nov 20 19:39:58 <danielsh>	Do you use a threaded mpm?
Nov 20 19:40:11 <danielsh>	If not you could strace just the child responsible for the commit
Nov 20 19:40:16 <danielsh>	And to answer your question,
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Nov 20 19:40:19 <danielsh>	'httpd -X'
Nov 20 19:40:21 <danielsh>	(or 'svnserve -X')
Nov 20 19:40:23 <danielsh>	don't fork
Nov 20 19:40:31 <danielsh>	obviously not directly doable in a production setup though.
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Nov 20 19:46:59 <rindolf>	danielsh: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/161538 - here is the httpd.strace.
Nov 20 19:49:26 <danielsh>	rindolf: looks like it doesn't honor the DAV/SVNPath directives
Nov 20 19:49:30 <rindolf>	danielsh: ah.
Nov 20 19:49:38 <danielsh>	it tries to parse POST /svn/... as a request to a file svn under docroot
Nov 20 19:49:57 <danielsh>	(also, the fact it POSTs suggests httpv2 is enabled still)
Nov 20 19:51:01 <rindolf>	danielsh: where should I put the «SVNAdvertiseV2Protocol off» directive?
Nov 20 19:51:11 <rindolf>	danielsh: I placed it before and outside all <Locations.>
Nov 20 19:51:20 <danielsh>	rindolf: try in <Location> scope then?
Nov 20 19:51:35 <rindolf>	danielsh: OK.
Nov 20 19:51:47 <danielsh>	  /* per directory/location */
Nov 20 19:51:49 <danielsh>	  AP_INIT_FLAG("SVNAdvertiseV2Protocol", SVNAdvertiseV2Protocol_cmd, NULL,
Nov 20 19:51:51 <danielsh>	               ACCESS_CONF|RSRC_CONF,
Nov 20 19:51:53 <danielsh>	               "enables server advertising of support for version 2 of "
Nov 20 19:51:55 <danielsh>	               "Subversion's HTTP protocol (default values is On)."),
Nov 20 19:51:57 <danielsh>	rindolf: ^^
Nov 20 19:52:14 <rindolf>	danielsh: OK.
Nov 20 19:52:17 <rindolf>	danielsh: now it's OK.
Nov 20 19:52:25 <rindolf>	danielsh: I mean - I can commit.
Nov 20 19:52:34 <danielsh>	OK.
Nov 20 19:52:43 <danielsh>	So we've isolated this to httpv2.
Nov 20 19:52:47 <rindolf>	danielsh: well, it should error if it's outside a <Location>.
Nov 20 19:52:49 <rindolf>	danielsh: yes.
Nov 20 19:52:54 <danielsh>	+1
Nov 20 19:53:03 <danielsh>	can you drop a note on that to dev@
Nov 20 19:53:13 <danielsh>	I might take a look if no one beats me to it
Nov 20 19:53:57 <rindolf>	danielsh: I guess.
Nov 20 19:54:08 <rindolf>	danielsh: I can send an email to dev@ without being subscribed, right?
Nov 20 19:54:15 <danielsh>	rindolf: yes
Nov 20 19:54:20 <rindolf>	danielsh: OK.
Nov 20 19:54:29 <danielsh>	New Revision: 1187695
Nov 20 19:54:39 <rindolf>	danielsh: what?
Nov 20 19:54:41 <danielsh>	rindolf: ^^ can you test if merging this trunk revision fixes your issue?
Nov 20 19:54:51 <danielsh>	rindolf: [ mispaste, I didn't realize the paste included a \n ]
Nov 20 19:55:14 <rindolf>	danielsh: I've installed svn from the 1.7.1 tarball.
Nov 20 19:55:15 <danielsh>	The symptom reported back then was errors, which isn't what you saw,
Nov 20 19:55:18 <danielsh>	but it sounds relevant
Nov 20 19:55:21 <rindolf>	danielsh: how am I supposed to merge a trunk revision?
Nov 20 19:55:31 <rindolf>	danielsh: is there a patch?
Nov 20 19:55:33 <danielsh>	rindolf: svn di -c 1187695 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk | patch -p0
Nov 20 19:55:49 <danielsh>	well, not -p0 perhaps
Nov 20 19:55:52 <danielsh>	but you get the idea
Nov 20 19:56:17 <rindolf>	danielsh: OK, let me try.
Nov 20 19:56:22 <danielsh>	Thanks
Nov 20 20:10:10 <StPiere>	i have ftp access to repsitory ...how can i set up a local copy , work on it , commitint changes localy and then commit back to remote server ?
Nov 20 20:12:38 <StPiere>	can i just download the files via ftp, and make local repo ?
Nov 20 20:13:07 <rindolf>	StPiere: SVN cannot tunnel its protocol over FTP.
Nov 20 20:13:24 <danielsh>	StPiere: do you want the official answer or the practical answer?
Nov 20 20:13:57 <StPiere>	try practical
Nov 20 20:14:06 <rindolf>	StPiere: yes, you can download the files to your file system and import them into the svn repository.
Nov 20 20:14:40 <danielsh>	It might work if you know what parts to avoid
Nov 20 20:15:01 <danielsh>	eg, for FSFS you'd need to disable the rep-cache
Nov 20 20:15:17 <danielsh>	similarly for BDB you'd need to account for platform-dependent files and concurrency issues
Nov 20 20:15:29 <danielsh>	in short, probably easier to use a supported access method
Nov 20 20:15:35 <StPiere>	thanks guys
Nov 20 20:15:40 <rindolf>	danielsh: same symptoms with this patch applied.
Nov 20 20:18:28 <danielsh>	A couple of things you could try at this point then.
Nov 20 20:18:41 <danielsh>	1. /branches/1.7.x@HEAD
Nov 20 20:18:47 <danielsh>	2. narrowing down the httpd config
Nov 20 20:19:06 <danielsh>	  (aka binary search culprit modules)
Nov 20 20:19:14 <danielsh>	3. posting to users@ for other's ideas
Nov 20 20:19:20 <danielsh>	rindolf: EOT
Nov 20 20:19:46 <rindolf>	danielsh: what should I do?
Nov 20 20:19:57 <rindolf>	danielsh: you've suggested at least 4 different things.
Nov 20 20:20:08 <rindolf>	danielsh: I can try removing modules from httpd
Nov 20 20:20:36 <danielsh>	rindolf: I'm suggesting several options :-)
Nov 20 20:21:02 <danielsh>	If you build from head, note that building not from a tarball additionally requires autoconf
Nov 20 20:29:20 <rindolf>	danielsh: OK, I removed all possible Apache modules -still getting the symptoms.
Nov 20 20:29:30 <rindolf>	danielsh: should I post to users@ or dev@
Nov 20 20:29:33 <rindolf>	?
Nov 20 20:29:54 <danielsh>	rindolf: users@ please for the bug
Nov 20 20:29:57 <danielsh>	regression
Nov 20 20:30:06 <rindolf>	danielsh: what?
Nov 20 20:30:30 <danielsh>	rindolf: users@ for the regression, please
Nov 20 20:30:43 <rindolf>	danielsh: which regression?
Nov 20 20:30:51 <danielsh>	either list for the 'the directive should hard error when used out of <Location> block'
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Nov 20 20:30:58 <danielsh>	rindolf: the one we've been debugging for the last 30 minutse
Nov 20 20:31:04 <danielsh>	You said it works when you downgrade to 1.6.x
Nov 20 20:31:07 <danielsh>	with the same config
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Nov 20 20:31:11 <danielsh>	=> it's a regression
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Nov 20 20:31:19 <rindolf>	danielsh: OK.
Nov 20 20:31:33 <danielsh>	rindolf: thanks
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Nov 20 20:35:40 <StPiere>	i have created repository and imported files with svn import
Nov 20 20:36:09 <StPiere>	when i now run svn status in the working directory im getting error : '.' is not a working copy
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Nov 20 20:37:17 <StPiere>	what am i doing wrong ?
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Nov 20 20:38:39 <rindolf>	StPiere: you need to checkout the directory from the repository.
Nov 20 20:38:46 <rindolf>	StPiere: import does not create a working copy.
Nov 20 20:39:10 <StPiere>	ok
Nov 20 20:39:33 <StPiere>	thanks
Nov 20 20:40:13 <StPiere>	i have done checkout and now i have a copy of my directory withins the main directory
Nov 20 20:40:34 <StPiere>	should i then edit files in this new directory?
Nov 20 20:42:53 <rindolf>	StPiere: yes.
Nov 20 20:43:09 <StPiere>	thanks
Nov 20 20:43:16 <StPiere>	sorry for many questions