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Re: the obliterate discussion - why dumpfiltering is no valid workaround

From: Toby Thain <toby_at_smartgames.ca>
Date: 2007-07-23 23:49:06 CEST

On 23-Jul-07, at 5:07 PM, timotheus wrote:

> Will Appleton wrote:
>> We have the same situation here. We have lots of folks using SVN
>> and TSVN
>> that don't know anything at all about VCS's (same types you
>> mentioned).
>> We've already had a few instances of mistakes and things being
>> added to the
>> repo's that shouldn't be added, but nothing that required a D & L.
>> The process of educating users is going well, and I expect that in
>> a few
>> weeks most of the goofy commits will begin to approach zero. :)
>> On the other hand, I'd like to see the obliterate feature added to
>> svnadmin. It would be nice insurance to have.
>>
>> -=W=-
>
> Similar here, except the users are primarily a team of electrical
> engineers. `obliterate' via `svnadmin' would be very useful insurance
> indeed -- espcially for the rare case where someone commits a CD .ISO
> image or huge ZIP file to the repository :-).

Clearly I'm working in a more technical/software-eng type environment
than some posters here.

> Availability of this
> command via `svn' sounds like a bad idea.

Agreed.

>
> Toby Thain wrote:
>> But seriously. The *first time* you see junk in the repo, you start
>> educating your users. If they're not educable, perhaps they're not
>> competent
>> to be doing what they're apparently doing.
>
> Also, when I used to admin Perforce for a world-wide engineering team
> years back, I would need this functionality approximately once
> every few
> months. Educating the multi-lingual, multi-cultural, in 3 countries,
> team was an ongoing process that was easier said than done. And since
> when is it the computer support guy that gets to descide to hire only
> competent staff? That is *not* a real-world situtation, and just
> wishful
> thinking, IMHO.

I didn't imply any svn admin ever had control of hiring or firing. I
said: Educate. But if the users are simply non-technical, then...
sure... maybe that won't go very far.

I'm actually impressed that Svn works well in such environments,
since it's hardly where it was aimed (except that it's easier/safer/
more logical to use than CVS, and therefore might be expected to
penetrate further).

--Toby

>
> Just my 2c,
> -timotheus

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