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Re: the obliterate discussion - why dumpfiltering is no valid workaround

From: Toby Thain <toby_at_smartgames.ca>
Date: 2007-07-23 18:42:31 CEST

On 23-Jul-07, at 10:37 AM, patrick wrote:

>
>
>
> Toby Thain wrote:
>>
>>> i prefer having airbags in cars.
>>> telling the people to drive carefully so no accidents will happen or
>>> otherwise not drive at all just does not seem to be an adequate
>>> solution :-]
>>
>> That makes no sense.
>>
>> Two things we know:
>> 1. Mistakes happen.
>> 2. Mistakes happen less with education.
>>
>> I don't see any analogy between 'obliterate' and airbags.
>>
>
> your first point was exactly what i was trying to say: mistakes
> happen.
> educating the users normally helps, but accidents will still occur
> always
> and forever.
> adding airbags to cars or adding obliterate functions to VCSs will
> minimize
> the damage when such an accident occurs. that was the analogy i was
> trying
> to point out.

But oddly I haven't needed to dump and filter on any production
repository I use - of course people make imperfect commits (just now
somebody broke the compile) but I've never had to remove anything for
legal reasons or reasons of propriety. I have become very curious
about the original poster's environment, since it seems his frequency
of stupid mistakes is high and cannot be reduced. This is alien to me.

>
> btw: calling users incompetent just because mistakes occur is neither
> helpful nor adequate.

If they don't understand a VCS after being educated about it (and
reading the Svnbook) then maybe they should find a new career.

> lewis hamilton also crashed his formula one car. is he
> a incompetent driver?
> but i think that's going OT a bit...
>
> i'd like to end the usefulness discussion and focus on trying to
> capture the
> reqirements if that's ok.

Several interlocutors agree with you. Fine.

--Toby

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