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Re: 'Download' ads on tortoise website

From: Jamie Pate <jamie.pate_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:12:01 -0700 (PDT)

The text ad is fine as long as Stefan doesn't care about competition. It
doesn't say 'DOWNLOAD' with no explaination it's pretty clearly a
'competing' svn company (as if anything can compete with tsvn).

it's the big 'DOWNLOAD button' that i'm pissed about (and kind of looks
like the sourceforge download button, and is quite obviously trying to
fraudulently get clicks),

I guess the real answer is for everyone here to click on the 'ad choices'
link and complain about it. If enough people complain then the ad (and the
advertiser possibly) may get reviewed/pulled by google

Come on crowdsourcing!!

On Thursday, 15 March 2012 04:41:55 UTC-7, Niemann, Hartmut wrote:
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >
> > And please don't tell me that the ad in the screenshot isn't a
> > deliberate deception to make users mistake it for the real download
> > button they're looking for.
>
> This is the point.
> What Kurt sent is not an ad.
> It is an attempt to defraud.
> Because it does not tell what you download (from where).
> So it is not far-fetched that users assume that they download
> what the page is about: TortoiseSVN.
>
>
> Stefan, I can accept that there are ads on the tortoiseSVN page
> put I want some standards to be respected.
>
> We (you, Stefan, being google's customer?)
> should complain at the ad service that *this*
> kind of ads is not accepted.
> In Germany, I'd try to catch this with "Unlauterer Wettbewerb"
> or "Betrug".
> I would ask Google's law department whether they think it is
> already "Betrug" if they - knowingly -
> distribute such misleading ads. (That is: tell them that they
> did and ask them politely whether they think it's legal that
> they continue after you informed them.)
>
> BGB according to dejure.org: "§ 263
> Betrug.(1) Wer in der Absicht, sich oder einem Dritten einen
> rechtswidrigen Vermögensvorteil zu verschaffen, das Vermögen eines anderen
> dadurch beschädigt, daß er durch Vorspiegelung falscher oder durch
> Entstellung oder Unterdrückung wahrer Tatsachen einen Irrtum erregt oder
> unterhält, wird mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu fünf Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe
> bestraft.
>
> (2) Der Versuch ist strafbar.
> "
>
> And "einen Irrtum erregen oder unterhalten" is surely true with
> an ad that looks like a download button.
>
>
> And maybe we should contact aquafold.com to sue that advertiser,
> because aquafold does it far better, they tell you that they're
> someone else.
>
> Still I think it's strange that the ads are so targeted that they
> offer directly competing products.
> If I published a sports club's monthly newsletter, I would accept
> ads for everything legal, be it insurances, bakery stores, plumbers,
> except for other sports clubs.
>
> Hartmut
>
>

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