Steve Williams wrote:
> Stefan Küng wrote:
>> On 5/18/06, BobF <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>> I don't know where you register, but you might start with a politely
>>> communication to the Turtle folks asking them to use something else.
>>> Explain how long the "turtle" has been the logo for Tortoise and that
>>> don't want any confusion.
>>> I would make my decision on next steps dependent on how the Turtle folks
>> good idea!
>> Someone with good writing skills around here? I always was *terrible*
>> at writing official letters...
> To Whom It May Concern,
> We recently became aware of your community project entitled Turtle, a
> rich client interface for Microsoft's Team Foundation Server (TFS)
> source code control system. You may or may not be aware of two
> pre-existing projects providing rich clients for source code control
> systems. These two projects are TortoiseCVS
> (http://www.tortoisecvs.org/) and TortoiseSVN
> (http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/), both freely available and widely used
> on Microsoft Windows PCs around the world. TortoiseCVS is a Microsoft
> Windows Explorer shell extension for managing local working copies for
> source code stored in a CVS repository. TortoiseSVN was started with
> some ideas and shell extension code from TortoiseCVS, but has since
> become the predominant GUI client for the Subversion source code control
> system (http://subversion.tigris.org/).
> Both TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN have been distributed freely for many
> years, and are in wide use around the world. TortoiseCVS has had almost
> 1.4 million downloads from SourceForge since 2002, and TortoiseSVN has
> had the same (1.4 million) in just one year on SourceForge. Both
> projects are older than that, but it gives a clear view of the
> popularity of these two clients.
> The potential confusion arises from both the name (Turtle compared to
> Tortoise) and the use of a green turtle logo drawn in a cartoon style.
> Both TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN use a green tortoise logo drawn in a
> cartoon style.
> We believe that the use of the name Turtle and the green turtle logo for
> your source code control client interface may be confusing for the
> public. It would be desirable for your project to make itself distinct
> from any apparent relationship or association with either the
> TortoiseCVS or TortoiseSVN projects to avoid or prevent potential
> confusion between the unrelated projects.
> Thank you, and we hope that this is just a concidence and not an attempt
> to cash in on the widespread knowledge and high respect of both the
> TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN projects. It would be greatly appreciated
> if you could take steps to rectify the points raised in this letter.
It looks good fr the most part, but I would definitely strike
most of the last paragraph (it's a tad inflammatory and goes
without saying... i.e., the very fact that this letter exist
implies that we hope such things.)
Thank you for you consideration in this matter.
would be sufficient, I think.
Given what Stefan said about TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN being
separate projects though, I too wonder why this is okay and not
My personal opinion (not having years of sweat invested in either
TortoiseSVN or TortoiseCVS) is that maybe this is a bit of an
over-reaction... but I do tend to be pretty laid back about these
kinds of things.
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Received on Thu May 18 15:57:17 2006