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RE: [OT] Turtle

From: BobF <rfreeze_at_charter.net>
Date: 2006-05-18 15:33:05 CEST

Steve,

This looks very good - better than I can do.

Did anybody else see these items from the Turtle license?
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4. The name "Turtle" and "ThoughtWorks, Inc." must not be used to endorse
or promote products derived from this software without prior written
permission. For written permission, please contact
opensource@thoughtworks.com.

5. Products derived from this software may not be called "Turtle" or
"ThoughtWorks", nor may "Turtle" or "ThoughtWorks" appear in their
name, without prior written permission of ThoughtWorks, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Williams [mailto:stevewilliams@kromestudios.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:21 AM
To: dev@tortoisesvn.tigris.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Turtle

Stefan Küng wrote:

>On 5/18/06, BobF <rfreeze@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>><$.02US>
>>
>>I don't know where you register, but you might start with a politely
written
>>communication to the Turtle folks asking them to use something else.
>>Explain how long the "turtle" has been the logo for Tortoise and that you
>>don't want any confusion.
>>
>>I would make my decision on next steps dependent on how the Turtle folks
>>respond.
>>
>></$.02US>
>>
>>
>
>good idea!
>
>Someone with good writing skills around here? I always was *terrible*
>at writing official letters...
>
>Stefan
>
>
>

To Whom It May Concern,

We recently became aware of your community project entitled Turtle, a
rich client interface for Microsoft's Team Foundation Server (TFS)
source code control system. You may or may not be aware of two
pre-existing projects providing rich clients for source code control
systems. These two projects are TortoiseCVS
(http://www.tortoisecvs.org/) and TortoiseSVN
(http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/), both freely available and widely used
on Microsoft Windows PCs around the world. TortoiseCVS is a Microsoft
Windows Explorer shell extension for managing local working copies for
source code stored in a CVS repository. TortoiseSVN was started with
some ideas and shell extension code from TortoiseCVS, but has since
become the predominant GUI client for the Subversion source code control
system (http://subversion.tigris.org/).

Both TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN have been distributed freely for many
years, and are in wide use around the world. TortoiseCVS has had almost
1.4 million downloads from SourceForge since 2002, and TortoiseSVN has
had the same (1.4 million) in just one year on SourceForge. Both
projects are older than that, but it gives a clear view of the
popularity of these two clients.

The potential confusion arises from both the name (Turtle compared to
Tortoise) and the use of a green turtle logo drawn in a cartoon style.
Both TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN use a green tortoise logo drawn in a
cartoon style.

We believe that the use of the name Turtle and the green turtle logo for
your source code control client interface may be confusing for the
public. It would be desirable for your project to make itself distinct
from any apparent relationship or association with either the
TortoiseCVS or TortoiseSVN projects to avoid or prevent potential
confusion between the unrelated projects.

Thank you, and we hope that this is just a concidence and not an attempt
to cash in on the widespread knowledge and high respect of both the
TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN projects. It would be greatly appreciated
if you could take steps to rectify the points raised in this letter.

Thank you,
TortoiseSVN developers and users.

-- 
Sly
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