Just remember people are creatures of habbit. People tend to stick with the
first technology they learn within a specific category. I first noticed this
back in the days, when I found that people who got a copy of Norton
Commander before PC Tools would tend to stick with Norton Commander no
matter what. Of course the guys who first got PC Tools raved about it, and
could never switch to Norton Commander.
So from a user point of view, theres a 99% chance I'll stick with Subclipse,
even if Subversive gives me extra features (keep in mind that PC Tools had
all sorts of extra features over and above file copying - disk
defragmentation, bad sector checking, etc, but that was still not enough to
get me to switch).
Bottom line: I loved my Norton Commander back then, and I love Subclipse
right now. Over my dead body.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Mark Phippard <markphip_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Talkov Roger <Roger.Talkov_at_uc4.com>
> > I just read that subversive is being included in eclipse 3.4. What does
> > mean for subclipse ?
> First off, it is not exactly true. Subversive is now a project at
> eclipse.org, and they are hoping to get on the Ganymede release train.
> Let's assume they make it. That still does not mean they are going
> to be "included in eclipse 3.4". They will be on the Ganymede
> discovery site along with all the other plugins, but they are not part
> of the main download or anything. They actually have not even been
> allowed to provide JavaHL or SVNKit with their installation, so new
> adopters are likely to have a fairly poor initial experience until
> they can solve that problem. Unfortunately, it will probably mean
> skirting around Eclipse policies to do so.
> What does it mean for Subclipse? Do you mean from a user's
> perspective? As in will users decide to switch to Subversive? I
> can't possibly answer that. I am sure some will. That being said,
> Subclipse is still the only one that is developed close to the
> Subversion development community. I am not aware of anyone from
> Subversive even contributing an email to a mailing list, let alone a
> patch to the code or reporting a bug. I am a full Subversion
> committer, and work closely with the Subversion developers to get the
> needs of Subclipse reflected in the Subversion roadmap. The SVN 1.5
> release is going to be huge for us and contains a number of
> enhancements and fixes we have asked for. Last week I posted details
> on the upcoming Subclipse release:
> If you were wondering if Subclipse is going to still be developed.
> The links from the above email should answer that. For the first time
> ever, Subclipse has some corporate backing from CollabNet, which means
> we can devote more resources to its development. CollabNet has built
> its CollabNet Desktop - Eclipse Edition on top of Subclipse and has
> created an awesome merge client on top of Subclipse. We will continue
> developing and supporting Subclipse for the foreseeable future and of
> course our support for the Subversion project itself is as strong as
> Mark Phippard
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