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Re: process for including changes in 1.0

From: <kfogel_at_collab.net>
Date: 2003-12-19 19:11:52 CET

Justin Erenkrantz <justin@erenkrantz.com> writes:
> You didn't even allow 24 hours after asking what to use before
> deciding on the issue tracker. IMHO, that's not enough time to say
> that everyone is on board and then claiming that anyone who chimes in
> is only reactive. Sorry.

That's fair (though I have been very careful *not* to claim that
"everyone is on board"!).

But consider: we really needed to start gathering those issue right
away. There wer a lot of them popping up, and they needed to be
organized. So rather than delay, I made a call, and emphasized that
it didn't have to be permanent, that it was just so we could start
getting this stuff organized.

At the time 1.0 candidate issues started popping up like dandelions,
there was no clear preference for file vs tracker, but there was
somewhat more lean toward tracker. I defended the file for a while,
then said, "What the heck, I don't have any direct experience with
either way, so let's just go with the tracker and see."

Now I'm asking you to at least try it out. I personally have not
found it that inconvenient yet, though that could just be me.

> And, many people (including myself) have said that we're not going to
> use the issue tracker. I think it's the wrong tool for the job. --

I must have missed that. So, if we don't use a STATUS file, you're
just not going to participate in the process? And this is unconnected
to whether a formal vote (not yet taken) chooses the STATUS file or
the issue tracker, because you simply think the tracker is the wrong
tool?

I guess I'm asking you not take such a hard line about it. Either:

   1) Give the issue tracker a try, and see if you can work with it.
      I'll happily be the one transfer all the information to a STATUS
      file if we decide to do that.

   2) Issue a formal call for votes on which way to go, where you take
      ownership of organizing the ballot and counting the votes.

But don't make blanket statements about how you won't participate in
the 1.0 process unless we use the tools you're accustomed to (if
that's not what you meant, then sorry, and please clarify). I've
compromised on many process issues in this project, as I'm sure you
have. It's not really *that* painful, is it? :-)

Don't complain, organize! :-)

-K

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