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Re: [PATCH] fs patch was vtable-fi-cation of the fs

From: Glenn A. Thompson <gthompson_at_cdr.net>
Date: 2002-11-22 04:09:14 CET

  Hey,

I was working on this when Garretts e-mail came in.
It's killing me I should be working on my paying job, but I can't get
this stuff out of my head. I've been subverted:-) I wanted to hold off
submitting but I wanted you guys to see what I'm working on. back and
forth I went in my head. So now I'm crazy and it's all your fault:-)
 The namespace problem he mentioned should have never been missed.
 Sorry. Or should I say scary.

cmpilato@collab.net wrote:

>Sander Striker <striker@apache.org> writes:
>
>
>
>>Can we please just create a branch and let gat work on
>>that. Development is a lot easier to follow when it takes place in
>>the repos. Furthermore I think this is cool enough to attract other
>>developers to help out.
>>
>>
>
>Ben, Karl, and I had dinner with Glenn the other night, and I think we
>all agree that a branch would be a Good Thing, but there are a couple
>of reasons why we (at least, Glenn, Ben and I -- Karl had to jet
>early) decided not to go this route up front:
>
This was my understanding as well. I'm not saying I don't want a
branch. I'm saying I haven't earned a branch *yet*:-)

> 1. We don't generally give commit access -- for any reason -- to
> someone who has not, as Glenn says himself, "passed the litmus
> test". Once we've seen some of his work, we can better
> consider the branch option.
>
what he said.

> 2. Glenn admitted that his initial runs at this work were not
> being done in a way that minimized code churn on a per-patch
> basis. In other words, and as you can see for yourself, his
> first patch is a friggin' bomb-blast in the ol' FS construction
> area! :-)
>
You were kinda warned:-) And anyone who helps me get this pig in, I owe
huge

>Glenn could benefit from a lot of initial review of
> his patch, as well as some suggestions on how to, in the
> future, make his changes more incrementally.
>
>Glenn, I don't *think* I'm speaking out of line with this -- if I am,
>
>
>I'll accept public beratement as you see fit to so deliver.
>
Beratement; not gonna doit:-) The last thing in the world I want to do
is mess up Subversion. I plan to earn a seat at the table.

>The rest of you: I think Glenn has some good ideas about tackling what
>is likely to be the biggest change to Subversion since self-hosting,
>and I'd be thrilled if everyone who "gotz tha skeelz" could take the
>time to review his work, understand and brainstorm about his master
>plan, and then help him with the implementation.
>
>
To be honest, the SQL page is only the tip of my evil master plan.
 Unfortunately, my writing skills are not so great. OK so they suck.
 But I will write and re-write until my point is made well. Once I get
this other crap I'm working on finished. uggghh.

That said, it's important that my work not mess with the primary goals.
Period. End of story. I would feel horrible if it did. But I know the
commiters won't let that happen. Which is totally cool from where I'm
sitting. In the basement by the way.

Some of my views:
DAV and Apache were awesome choices. The auto-commit stuff will bring
users in droves. No doubt in my mind.
But the thing that turns me on the most is the FS/repos. I really want
to roll up my sleeves and become one with it :-) It's a nice balance of
complexity and simplicity. I friggin love it. The permanent store is
the holy grail in my mind. I can't begin to list the number of things I
think it applies to. I'm sure you guys see it. You built the thing.
 When you guys were looking for a logo. I wanted to submit a sponge btw.

Lastly, let me leave you with this thought. Many people on this list
have talked about their favorite ra layer. Mine would have to be
ra_federated. Imagine a world where repos' play nice together. Like
so. Hi, I'm gats repo. What's your name? Do we have any common
friends. OH cool ......... Behind door number 1 is my java tape library
stuff, enjoy. Behind door number two is .... I have have about 10GB of
free space if you need a mirror. Please submit your mirroring requests
as follows .....

I know you guys have sat around thinking about this crazy kind of stuff;
right?

OK now I'm going to go work. Email is down and I'm going to go close xchat.

gat

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Received on Fri Nov 22 04:07:54 2002

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